tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7581614926672563071.post6053591461330810709..comments2023-03-30T04:37:22.283-07:00Comments on The Savvy, The Extreme & The Idealist: Journalism 101: Sources of Misinformationthe beige onehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07942559613808788504noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7581614926672563071.post-74151777634709529012008-11-14T11:13:00.000-08:002008-11-14T11:13:00.000-08:00And, Anna, just to clarify my position, I'm not su...And, Anna, just to clarify my position, I'm not suggesting anyone but the media fix the media. It would by ludicrous to suggest a dime that could go to education should be diverted to the government intervention with the media.<BR/><BR/>I do think we should push them to reinstitue ombudsman programs, which have been cut out of most newsrooms. Just one of many ways to start.JJisafoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04593626516051718950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7581614926672563071.post-58671456395129025202008-11-13T16:53:00.000-08:002008-11-13T16:53:00.000-08:00I'm also in favor of having SOME sort of outlet (e...I'm also in favor of having SOME sort of outlet (even ONE)that is reputable and can be trusted (a la BBC, as the beige one mentions). I don't think it's asking for much to hold one measly network responsible for informing its viewers accurately.<BR/><BR/>I have increasingly less and less time to hunt down shit and would appreciate if I could actually sit down, watch/listen to a BBC-like network, and be done with it; not have to start an hour's worth of debunking or vetting or triple-checking info. after the newscast is over.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7581614926672563071.post-42599197461568859122008-11-13T16:23:00.000-08:002008-11-13T16:23:00.000-08:00If the British can expect stellar journalism from ...If the British can expect stellar journalism from the same network that airs What Not To Wear, or Benny Hill, I don't see why we have to be different.<BR/><BR/>Your point tying the problem to education is well taken, though...the beige onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07942559613808788504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7581614926672563071.post-37398521748990896212008-11-13T15:27:00.000-08:002008-11-13T15:27:00.000-08:00I don't know... I don't think it's the media's res...I don't know... I don't think it's the media's responsibility to keep us well-educated and informed. Am I honestly supposed to believe the same network that brings me Hollywood gossip and game shows could accurately bring me information about my government?<BR/><BR/>I think this illustrates the lapse in our school systems than it does any lapse by the media. And as long as we let our schools crumble in favor of fixing our media, we'll keep getting more of the same.annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13723555210676341329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7581614926672563071.post-21088388545974207602008-11-13T09:37:00.000-08:002008-11-13T09:37:00.000-08:00That's a problem journalism has long had - no real...That's a problem journalism has long had - no real accountability. They claim professional and protected status, and fulfill a hugely important need in democracy, yet they have nothing like the bar and take nothing like the hypocratic oath.<BR/><BR/>Dangerous as it may sound, I feel as though they should not get any legal protection for sources and should get no privileged access until they form some kind of industry oversight that has actual teeth, can revoke the status of lazy or incompetent or disingenuous journalists.JJisafoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04593626516051718950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7581614926672563071.post-28099709748853095092008-11-13T08:11:00.000-08:002008-11-13T08:11:00.000-08:00living this life is so extremely and increasingly ...living this life is so extremely and increasingly frustrating. i don't know who first said it but in a previous life's work, a mentor said we need to work SMARTER not harder. <BR/><BR/>the trickle down effect of someone who is supposed to be providing a service but is not doing their job properly (in the name of ratings or money or whatever self-serving purpose), is that every individual has to fill up their day trying to discern fact from fiction, safe from unsafe, healthy from unhealthy, just from unjust, instead of just being able to trust that what we are being fed is honest and true and good, so that we can free up some time to focus on evolving, innovating, creating, living.<BR/><BR/>it's exhausting. AND UNNECESSARY.<BR/><BR/>sorry for the long run-on ranty sentence. <BR/><BR/>but how do we hold the media accountable? any ideas?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7581614926672563071.post-51290205850512142232008-11-13T07:53:00.000-08:002008-11-13T07:53:00.000-08:00One thing I think we're missing is how easy it is ...One thing I think we're missing is how easy it is to be duped by something you really want to believe. All the best hoaxes tap into narrative niches we already have.<BR/><BR/>I hate being duped. Hate it. Mainly because I blame myself for being gullible. Less the not checking than the willingness to believe.<BR/><BR/>Recontextualizes her response, too, because she actually was the victim of jerkdom. Doesn't make me like or respect her any more, but there it is.JJisafoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04593626516051718950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7581614926672563071.post-87687129734960655082008-11-13T05:20:00.000-08:002008-11-13T05:20:00.000-08:00One more thing: when I worked on "Hardball w/Chri...One more thing: when I worked on "Hardball w/Chris Matthews," the...ahem, star, would invariably burst into the studio, henchmen and producers buzzing about, and he would literally yell: NUMBERS, NUMBERS, NUMBERS PEOPLE. WE NEED HIGH NUMBERS TONIGHT.<BR/><BR/>That is what drives the media nowadays, more so than ever. Dan Rather lost his job because he bought into this junk. And if even Rather can get seduced by exclusives (garbage or not), then...what? We're doomed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7581614926672563071.post-10364360164762595952008-11-13T05:17:00.000-08:002008-11-13T05:17:00.000-08:00Oh yes, I am so glad you brought up Jayson Blair (...Oh yes, I am so glad you brought up Jayson Blair (from my neck of the woods, no less). Amazing how this garbage can single-handedly bring down the likes of Howell Raines and Gerald Boyd.<BR/><BR/>Cross shameless self-promotion: http://savvyextremeidealist.blogspot.com/2008/10/fact-checking-liberal-media.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com